Comments on: G-S-T Quick 5 – Culturally Loved Movies That We Just Hate

By: Marc

Marc — Sun, 29 Nov 2009 22:00:43 +0000

I’ve always wanted to see it but haven’t gotten around to it yet. That said, I’ll back anything that will break the cultural stigma that has tons of people claiming Pacino’s Scarface is “soo awesome” so thanks for the suggestion. I’ll have a look and get back to you…looking forward to it for sure:)

By: The Movie Mistress

The Movie Mistress — Sat, 28 Nov 2009 04:43:10 +0000

Have you seen the original Scarface? I have a feeling that if more people saw the 1932 version, they would stop making such a big deal about the 1983 because

1) it’s a gangster movie the way gangster movies should be made, and
2) they’ll discover the newer one isn’t as special anymore

By: madhatter21

madhatter21 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:08:50 +0000

@ Marc… It’s really only two versions.

When the movie first came out, it included a grizzled harrison Ford voice-over that the studio insisted on, seemingly believing that certain details wouldn’t be understood by the audience at large.

Ten years later, in 1992, Scott released “The Director’s Cut”. The voice-over was removed, scenes that included allusions to a unicorn were spliced in, and the ending was tweaked a bit, giving it a slightly darker conclusion.

Thing is, Scott had a bit of a limited window to do this, so it’s a tad sloppy. Thus a “Final Cut” was released on DVD, primarily as an excuse to clean up little things in the Director’s Cut.

Funny thing is – there are legions of fans who prefer the original, and just as many who prefer the re-working.

By: Marc

Marc — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:38:13 +0000

Wow, looks like we’ve got the makings for Go,See,Talk’s very first virtual shoving match:P j/k

You know I hear that people are at odds with Ridley’s director’s cut since it really does change the story. I also just say the Biography interview with Ford this weekend and he wasn’t particularly happy with Scott’s ending change but still liked working on the movie.

Hatter, I don’t know the difference between voice over vs. non. Care to elaborate? Also, I know of the director’s cut and how it’s different, but never seen it. Which do you prefer??

By: Marc

Marc — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:33:38 +0000

Yeah Adien, I don’t think anyone in the world will like all of the same movies no matter how much they do have in common. But that’s what makes things interesting, differentiation of opinions.

BTW, I love “Big Trouble in Little China” but a lot of people I know think I’m smoking crack to love the film as much as I do.

By: madhatter21

madhatter21 — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:23:56 +0000

@ Aiden… I wouldn’t go so far as to say SCARFACE sucks, it’s just been raised to a height it doesn’t deserve by would-be thugs. It’s a good flick – not a great flick, and certainly not an essential…but it’s not a crap flick.

As for BLADE RUNNER, it’s a tough call…it’s one that seems to have gained more and more of a following as time has gone on. For those who find it slow, they must remember – it’s sci-fi noir. If a viewer doesn’t like film noir, they won’t dig noir with flying cars and replicants, right?

The big question, is which version is better? Voice over, non voice over, or final director’s cut?

By: Aiden R

Aiden R — Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:10:52 +0000

Scarface fucking sucks, I don’t get that one. And I once heard Blade Runner coined as “Blade Crawler”, I think that sums up my thoughts on that one nicely. Can’t say I’m down with the other contributions to the list, but hey, to each his own.

By: madhatter21

madhatter21 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:00:22 +0000

Thanks for reading – and the feeling is mutual.

As for KANE, do me one small favour…actually two. Move it up the list, and do watch it again soon. However, you need to watch the dvd with Ebert’s commentary track running. There is so much going on in that flick that was pretty revolutionary at the time.

Might up your opinion of the film!

By: Marc

Marc — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 05:00:22 +0000

Very nice work Hatter. I knew about the resurrection of LIFE and have come to love SHAWSHANK over the years but the one I am still at odds with is KANE. I think I’ve been a CASABLANCA fan since birth an nearly everyone I’ve met either has CASABLANCA or KANE as their all time fav but KANE’s appeal still escapes me…but like the others I’ve chosen to revisit this one day and will be on my list of “to be considered”. Only then might I have a slightly more favorable opinion…actually looking forward to it. Great post btw. Like reading your stuff!

By: madhatter21

madhatter21 — Sat, 21 Nov 2009 03:48:50 +0000

Nah…

I wouldn’t pester you for not liking them – even if I do count many of ‘em amoung my faves. At least you’re being honest and saying “I know a lot of y’all like it, but it just ain’t my thing”. There are actually a handful of classic that I feel the same way about!

Likewise, I’m happy to hear that you might circle back someday. That shows character.

As for my post about certain movies getting better with time…..ask, and ye shall receive!